Martha: I wanted to start our conversation by talking about your previous book, Healing Spiritual Wounds, because I saw that in many ways it was the impetus for your new book, Wounded Pastors, and sets the scene of this space where we live and work called church.
Carol: When I was traveling around and talking about Healing Spiritual Wounds, I was also working for the denomination on a task force for survivors of sexual misconduct. I was...